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Carter and Tilley have moved up a class each. Both are 25 and need to move along before they get aged out of the system. There are several other pitchers at the lower Rookie Leagues facing the same issue.
Regarding O’Neill… at some point the Cards will have to get him into Busch to see what they got for MGonzales. They didn’t trade Marco for a AAAA outfielder.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention Sierra and Mercado, because after the Springfield bunch you have to go down to Carlson(18 y.o.) at Peoria to find a solid prospect that will move up. State College has Hurst and Benson that could produce. Denton, Plummer and Robbins are fizzling right now.
Signing Molina for three more years spelled disaster from the get go. The F.O. must have had an idea that this would happen. With Kelly on the horizon, it was plain to see that Molina wasn’t about to help the one who would be taking innings away from him. At the time of his signing, Molina had a chance for free agency and finding a team where he could play out a contact without being pressured by the “best catching prospect” in the minors.
So now there’s a chance that this will lead to discord in the clubhouse with Molina and others feeling that F.O. “misinformed” him. Yadi now knows that he should not have signed on here for three more years. The F.O. felt that letting Molina walk would have been asking for problems from the fan base, but Pujols walked in a similar situation and the team’s faithful calmed down after realizing that signing ap was a bad idea.
Yadi is slipping and his trots to first always annoyed me…. very bad precedent in showing the other players how not to hustle. What seems to be happening is that the tail wants to wag the dog….. also another bad example for other players to ponder. I would say to nip this in the bud… trade Pham (a good idea anyway), and regain control of the dugout. Is Molina going to pout each time he doesn’t start? How does that help Kelly and the rest of the team going forward?
Are we stuck with two lousy contracts now?
I think that Ramirez will keep his spot in the JC rotation with his improved performance last night. I was beginning to think that he couldn’t pitch at all. Let’s hope he continues to find his mojo.
Back in 2014 the Cardinals had a group of SS prospects that I dubbed the Fab-4: Edmundo Sosa- Oscar Mercado- Aledmys Diaz- Juan Herrera. All of them were in MLB’s top-30. Things have changed…. dramatically. All of them fought injuries and one is facing a second season with the DL flu, one is now an OFer, one is out of baseball altogether and one is back to where he was in the early Spring of last season. Some asked where did all our SS prospects go.
Sosa(21) was born on 3-6-96. He signed a contact in July of ’12 at 16. At DSL in 13, he batted.314- OPS.846.
Eyes were opened and he became a sort of Juan Perez of the day. In ’14 with the GCL-Cards he hit .275 and was still full of potential. He climbed up the prospects ranking in ’15, batting .300 at JC. In 16′ he split the season between PEo and PB, but his season was ended by injury on Aug. 3. In his 5 seasons he has 14 HRs and 29 SBs. Still in the top 10 of the rankings, his ’17 started PB. But injuries caught him again and he was DLed on 6-1 and again on 6-16, now his season is over. His stock is falling accordingly.
Mercado(22)(12-16-94) was signed on 6-17-13, he spent that year with the GCL-Cards and hit a modest .209. In ’14 at JC he hit .224 and in ’15 at PEO .254. People were watching him now, but in ’16 with PB, his problems began. He was DLed on 6-6 AND 6-14 and when Sosa hit town on 7-22 he was moved to the OF. He has speed and in is 5 seasons has 154 SBs but only 16 HRs. CF seemed to suit him and now is having his best season ever in the SPRF OF. He’s back after 2 DL stints this month and continues to hit at .297. No longer a SS prospect but his stock is quickly on the rise.
Juan Herrera is now 24… today!, but after 5 mediocre seasons in the Card’s organization, he was released on 5-26-17. He had 2 trips to the DL in ’14 and an extended 3 month DL in ’15. He never really regained any traction after that. Herrera had a lot of potential gained a spot in the rankings, usually in the teens range. The injuries sorely effected his stock and it plummeted. Personally, I was very high on this guy and thought that he had the best chance of the 4 to reach Busch.
Aledmys Diaz (27 on Aug-1). We all know his story. almost immediately after his 3-23-14 signing out of Cuba Diaz almost became a footnote. ’14 saw him injured several times but he got a very late call-up to St. Louis In ’15 while with SPRF he was injured yet again which led to him being DFAed’. Last season, due to an injury to Peralta he was back in St.Louis and this time he took off all the way to the ASG. We finally had our young SS of the future. His stock was off the chart. But wait…. after a HBP broken finger that caused him to miss 5 weeks, he never recaptured the magic. He finished ’16 with a .300BA and was still thought by many to have a repeat of last season in ’17. Something was missing in Aledmys…. and DeJong was ready. Diaz was sent to MEM on 6-28 and he continues to struggle.
My point is: the organization had a good group of SSs, lots of potential, but outside of Diaz’ run in ’16, it appears a third base prospect turned SS now is holding the golden ring. Regrettably, accidents and injuries happen and for the prospects coming up through the system… if you are blessed with a whole lot of talent and can stay away from the DL, you can find a wealth of opportunity as a baseball player. But there is challenges and there are bumps in the road….. the baseball business is cruel and unforgiving.
Now I have one question. Have Darren Seferina and Tommy Edman stepped over Sosa and Alvarez as middle infield prospects?
GCL-Cards went from 12-8 to 12-13 in three days. They lost a reg. game on Monday (2-1), then lost a make-up Suspended game plus a reg. game on both Tuesday (7-6 & 9-8) and Wednesday (8-5 & 8-6). The bullpen got a serious workout but with the extended roster it was much less severe.
Johnson City pitching gave up 10 runs last night against Burlington. With the five errors the Mountain Birds committed, there was only 1 earned. That was in front of a hometown crowd. (Refunds?)
With all the player movements, it seems as though something something is brewing at the top. Junior Fernandez was pulled after one inning at Palm Beach for “undisclosed reasons”. A couple of changes involved players that aren’t serious prospects (Caldwell, Diekroeger etc.). Oviedo#22 (BW-July) was moved up to State College.
But all of this may mean nothing and just some posturing. Anyway, when prospects start traveling around the country and I think something is up, but I’m usually wrong. So proceed with your own thoughts at your own risk.July 27, 2017 at 7:39 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #28825
Speaking of Piscotty…. he has been sighted in Peoria and will be playing for the Chiefs tonight and over the weekend. PR Dept. really building it up.
One positional spot remains open at Memphis.(Arozarena, AGarcia, Mercado, Sierra?) Two if Weaver is in St Louis.(Flaherty, Gallen?) Or will a newcomer take a spot?
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I’m glad that UConn recognized both Drake and Ynfante. Generally, both are under recognized.July 26, 2017 at 9:38 am in reply to: Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018 #28746
One would think that this thread would be humming right now.
The power bat we need to get will come from the third base position. Perhaps 1B, as Carpenter might be on the move. Our OF right now is in total flux with Fowler hitting the DL again. When the smoke clears, we will have Fowler-Piscotty(the ghost)-Pham-Grichuk-now Bader and a long list of prospects nearly ready to step up. It’s almost chaos. We presently have 3 healthy outfielders Tommy, Grich and the rookie Bader (4 if you include Martinez). That works for the time being. Do we have too many or not enough?
Going forward, Piscotty’s situation is a mystery, but he is a legitimate starter (when?)….. don’t know. Fowler is now a problem. Actually he became one when he was given a contract. He was supposed to be our solid lead-off guy who was going to change the clubhouse atmosphere with his smile and even temperament. He was to be a rock. Mo made another desperate mistake and we’re stuck with this guy for 4 years and paying him a bundle. He has provided very little in production and his situation will be difficult to deal with. JMartinez is not an MLB starter. His bat is but his glove isn’t…. but he is good to keep around.
Pham is in one of his peaks right now. His pro history is highs and lows. The F.O. may decide to sell on the high side. If not he is a damn fine left-fielder. Grichuk is still fighting the strike zone and has been given a long leash already…. still a work in progress? Bader could be a guy that sticks, or not.
Then there are the other prospects JAGarcia and O’Neill are also ready. We didn’t trade MGonzales for a guy that doesn’t even get a shot a MLB, an AAAA. It’s strange that Garcia is thought highly of by informed people around the blogs, but doesn’t show up in MLB’s top-30. What’s with that?
There’s too many questions and loose ends regarding our outfield situation but it might be clarified at the deadline. I’m not even going to guess at the outcome.
Weaver was passed over last night and Socolovich had to start in his place. He was probably on his way to St Louis and is available to pitch after Martinez’ start.
We’ve gone through so many of these exercises looking for a superstar that we could deal for. One by one they become moot as they sign or get traded elsewhere.
I searched every teams top-30 looking for a top-notch OF with power that is ready now (since we are looking for some power). There are a few scattered around but no one that stands very much higher than what we have now with O’Neill and Bader.
O’Neill’s power # is a 60. He could turn into a MLB masher.
From what have you done for me lately category:
At Memphis – Mejia .412
At Springfield – Knizner .474
At Palm Beach – Billings .357
At Peoria – Fiedler .353
At State Coll. – Mendoza .359
At Johnson Cty – Bandes .350
At GCL Cards – Montero .400
There’s some names to remember here.
Sure he’s the best we have…. no “just” needed. He continues to impress more and more everyday. A ss with some pop that is improving in the field is a valuable commodity. Who would you like to see there… Cal Ripken or Ernie Banks.
Probably they are looking at potential.
MLB’s newest ranking (yesterday?) puts Voit at #27. Mr. Walton also has Voit at #27.
The MLB list added Edman#26 – Voit#27 – 6th rd. draft pick Zach Jackson #28 – Knizner#30.
They punched O’Neill in at #5. Gallen went from #22 to #14, Mercado went from #30 to #19.
Forget the bees… you opened a can of worms.
IMO Diaz is the biggest disappointment. Many regs here expected a repeat season from him and we got everything but that. Last season he filled the 2 spot very nicely, but the big improvement by Pham negates the loss. Tommy has put up similar numbers and has taken over Diaz’ spot in the order.
Next is Piscotty because we expected him to improve on his ’16 season. He hasn’t come close. I suspect that his personal troubles have effected him even more than his physical woes. He was supposed to be a middle of the order bat.
The middle of our order is not one you’d find on a successful team. Fowler-Gyorko-Molina are far from the what we’re used to seeing. Fowler is not fulfilling the billing that he was given and he will be out as the CF long before that contract ends. Gyorko would be a good 5th or 6th batter and Molina in the 5 hole makes that spot really soft. Yadi is slipping, offensively and defensively as his age would dictate.
The rotation is about what we could’ve expected. Perhaps Wacha is the exception because many figured we wouldn’t get much from him at all. Of course the loss of Reyes was critical. A couple more disappointments are relievers. OH tops that list along with Rosenthal, Siegrist and Cecil. That more or less set the tone for a weak back of the bullpen, and that has to be addressed.
Pham is a new man with new eyes this season and has produced accordingly. I think the play of DeJong is understated. I feel we can project him to be a long-term starter and I can see him filling one of the middle spots in the order. He may serve us better as a second-baseman. We can sell a little higher on Wong right now as he has started to hit. His one dimension doesn’t fit here.
Basically, this is a team with mediocre production from multi-positional players. Voit and Wong aren’t even that. We’re using band-aids to fill needs and it isn’t working so far. I think that we should cash in on some of the dead weight and wait for some prospects to revitalize this team. This team is horribly boring but I can envision some solid help from the farm to change that. You can’t run this bunch of guys out there every day and expect to win a division.
ps. we need to get a pure #4 bat…. we ain’t got any around, period.
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jager…. sometimes I agree and sometimes disagree, but I enjoy reading your comments so I hope you become more able to get through to us.
Molina seems to want to dominate playing time. Losing time to Kelly might make him less apt to offer Carson much help. That is what worries me. At work would you help someone to take over your job? Kelly may have to get more info from Matheny.
What happened to this thread? It should be kept alive. Agree…. disagree?
I agree with those…. they’re our near future rotation guys. We have to see how Reyes is, coming off his surgery. Do we have the power-armed Alex or something else?
I’d also like to keep Gallen, Hicks and Helsley as the next wave.
O’Neill hasn’t been placed at Memphis as of yet. They’ll need to make a roster move to open a spot.
So, you thought you knew the Springfield Cardinals. In April they looked like a solid team with starters Alcantara-Flaherty-Gomber-Hudson-Pearce-Poncedeleon, and there was Alvarez-Lino-Mejia-Thon-Wilson-JAGarcia-Martini-Mercado. Some very good arms and bats there.
With players coming and going plus the DL bug (Alvarez-Grayson) they finished the first half at 35-35. Alcantara, Hudson and Gomber remain add in reliever Echemendia and that’s all from the opening day pitching staff.
Of the position players only Wilson and Mercado (long DL stretch) have been on Springfields roster all season. Bruce Caldwell (Mem), Sierra have been up and now back.
The Cards have new members Gallen and Ellis in their rotation, plus additions Knizner, Edman, Nagowski, Seferina and Arozarena.
As it turns out this second half team has a 19-10 record and in 1st place. With all the roster changes within our organization Springfield has had the biggest turnover so far and most likely more will be coming and going. This sure ain’t the team that opened the season on April 6th in Frisco (Tx).
Ps. the goal is to keep the prospects moving up…. some get blocked some get moved up because of another team’s necessity. It’s a long tough road for these guys.
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With all due respect to Hudson (big fan)…. Brady Whalen had a super day for Johnson City in a 9-8 win over Danville. Whalen was 3-4, (2) 2b, BB and 5 RBIs. Brady has been struggling defensively and with the bat (.190). In his 2nd pro season he’s young at 19 y.o. and at 6’4″ he’s been playing 3B for the Mountain Cards. Here’s hoping that his big offensive might set a fire under him.