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  • #39254
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    Modern Era Committee just announced Jack Morris and Alan Trammel have been elected. Meanwhile, Ted Simmons is still waiting. I really thought Simmons would be elected. SMH

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    Jay Jaffe of Sports Illustrated puts forward Scott Rolen’s Hall of Fame case. (As an aside, Rolen should be back on the Cardinals team Hall of Fame ballot this year. Our annual committee meeting is coming up in four weeks. As always, I am really looking forward to it.)

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/12/14/scott-rolen-hall-fame-ballot-2018

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    Using Bill James’ Win Shares as the gauge to determine which former MLB standouts are Cooperstown-worthy. Among those on the 2018 ballot are former Cardinals Chris Carpenter, Scott Rolen, Jason Isringhausen and Larry Walker. (Free)

    https://thecardinalnation.com/rating-2018-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/

    #42026
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    Because the BBWAA does not choose to publicize its own members’ votes ahead of time, a guy named Ryan Thibodeaux has become famous simply for taking the time to track them as the voters share their ballots. His current scoreboard follows. What is notable to me is that Rolen appears to have gained enough votes to stay on the ballot.

    With 194 ballots revealed/~45.8% of the vote known:
    Chipper – 98.5%
    Vlad – 95%
    Thome – 93%
    Edgar 81%
    Hoffman – 78%
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    Mussina – 73%
    Schilling – 66%
    BB/RC – 65%
    Walker – 41%
    Vizquel – 30%
    Manny – 24%
    McGriff – 18%
    Rolen – 12%
    Andruw – 6.2%
    Tracker: bit.ly/hof18

    #42224
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    A lifetime NO vote concerning Bonds,Clemens,Sosa,Manny.Never want any of them in the HOF.Add Pete Rose to the list also.Any writer voting for Rose should lose his voting rights for a year.

    #42240
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    Rose is permanently ineligible, so I would not worry about him getting votes.

    #42241
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    Speaking of the Hall, I wrote about McGwire and Sosa. Hope you like it.

    https://thecardinalnation.com/why-sosas-apology-would-be-different-than-mcgwires/

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    I’ve been following Ryan on twitter for 3 years now. His tracker is addicting

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    I’d like to see Chris Carpenter get more votes. I know injuries held is overall numbers down but the guy was very dominant for a period of time.

    #42262
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    The problem is that the voters cannot decide what to do about the steroid guys, so they remain on the ballot, sucking away votes from the newer candidates. With only 10 choices per voter, a guy like Carp is usually going to be no better than #11 or #12. The writers asked the Hall of Fame for more votes per voter (12 or 15 or unlimited?) and were turned down flat, so this is the way it will be for the foreseeable future.

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    Wow. Rob Rains only voted for four players – Vlad, Hoffman, Chipper, Thome.

    https://twitter.com/RobRains/status/955491712377540608

    #42496
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    The announcement is today at 5 pm CT on MLB Network.

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    Yeah Rob should get his vote taken away there is a reason you get to select 10 and that type of a vote is the reason deserving people like Edmonds gets dropped off list so fast…he is an idiot

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    Rob Rains voting history:
    2018 – Vlad, Hoffman, Chipper, Thome
    2017 – Bagwell, Hoffman, Rains, Pudge, Lee Smith
    2016 – Bagwell, Griffey, Hoffman, Piazza, Rains, Lee Smith
    2015 – Bagwell, Biggio, Johnson, Pedro, Piazza, Rains, Lee Smith, Smoltz

    I would say he’s a small hall guy but I don’t think you can be a small hall guy and vote for Lee Smith. Anyway’s his vote history is perplexing.

    I am predicting Hoffman, Chipper, Vlad and Thome get elected with Edgar missing by 2% points.

    #42546
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    Rob was a Cards beat writer during the 1980s and has a greater familiarity, and in my assessment, fondness for the players from that era. He is a friend but I do not agree with his HOF stance.

    #42559
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    Chipper Jones, Vlad Guerrero, Jim Thome and Trevor Hoffman have been elected to the Hall of Fame. Only the fourth time that four are going in once. (75% required)

    Larry Walker got 34.1%, Scott Rolen 10.2% so both stay on ballot. One and dones include Chris Carpenter (2 votes) and Jason Isringhausen (0 votes).

    Results here:

    https://baseballhall.org/news/hof-2018-ballot-announced

    #42587
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    For those interested in what I think is a solid analysis of the vote and a look ahead, check out this article from Jay Jaffe of Sports Illustrated.

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/24/baseball-hall-fame-voting-election-results-chipper-jones-vladimir-guerrero-jim-thome-trevor-hoffman?

    #42692
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    Jaffe does a very thoughtful job of forecasting the Hall vote over each of the next five years.

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/27/baseball-hall-fame-edgar-martinez-barry-bonds-roger-clemens-derek-jeter-roy-halladay

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    I read that article and the thing that stands out to me seems to be his acknowledgement there will be fewer guys getting in over these next 5 years. That can only spell in an increased logjam and several deserving players falling off.

    #42763
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    Yes, that would be very bad for the Larry Walkers and Scott Rolens. Dealing with Bonds and Clemens would help.

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    I found it interesting he thinks the BBWAA will eventually elect Bonds and Clemons. I don’t think they will. They will both keep climbing in percentages but neither will get the 75% they need.

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