2017 St. Louis Cardinals Top Prospects Voting

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  • #32856

    David Greenwald
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    Going with Flaherty. I think he has a higher upside and a more sure thing.

    #32860

    bccran
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    Flaherty #2

    #32874
    BlackHillsCard
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    #2 Weaver

    #32875

    TheLonelyBull
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    “But dont forget, Reyes has shown (when healthy) he can perform at the major league level. Kelly hasnt.”

    In 39 at bats over half of August and all of September in 2016, Pham looked like he didn’t belong. Of course, I was crying about his lack of playing time because I knew Pham was a player, but most fans were lambasting him and gave him no shot because of his lack of performance over those 39 at bats. My recommendation is to stop judging players who play sporadically. You are right, Carson hasn’t proven himself, but it’s not his fault. It’s his manager’s fault for not giving him an honest opportunity.

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    #32879

    ibruce
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    #2 Weaver

    #32880

    14NyquisT
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    #2 Flaherty

    #32881

    14NyquisT
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    I just wanted to add that Flaherty is going to get a shot at the’18 rotation and IMO he’ll will get a spot.

    ****This is not criticism….**** Kelly will be watching from the bench for how many years? Likely he’ll be traded because Molina thinks himself to be Gordie Howe. KIR

    #32882

    mudville
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    When the voting started, the first name that came to mind was Kelly. Then, I started thinking about the movement on Reyes’ pitches, and decided to vote for Reyes. Sure hope his control is still decent. I see Reyes’ and Kelly as a future All-Stars. Not sure I can say that about any other player in the organization, yet.

    Carson Kelly #2.

    #32883

    PadsFS
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    ibruce and blackhills, Weaver is no longer an option. He’s surpassed the innings limit for a rookie.

    #32886

    14NyquisT
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    pads, I guess the 1-20 will be one player voting. I think there was some discussion last season about how prospects will be voted on after that. We used 5 at a time last year. What are your thoughts going forward? I don’t have a clear cut choice and feel it should be left up to you.

    #32888
    BlackHillsCard
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    Sorry about that. Flaherty gets my #2 vote then.

    #32895

    PadsFS
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    We can start doing 5 at a time at #6-10. I’m all for it. I think it gives a better consensus.

    #32911

    SoonerinNC
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    Flaherty #2

    #32930

    vegasjim
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    Flaherty #2

    #32935

    PadsFS
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    Looks like Flaherty has pulled off the upset over Carson Kelly for the #2 spot at 7-5

    Voting can start for #3!

    My vote is for Carson Kelly again.

    #32936

    CariocaCardinal
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    Bader #3

    #32939

    Bw52
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    Carson Kelly #3

    #32944

    14NyquisT
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    My #3 is 22 y.o. Dakota Hudson. The 1st rd.pick in ’16 6’5″ 215 was named the Texas League’s Pitcher of the Year (the 1st Springfield Card to do so). SRFD ERA= 2.53, 1st in the league and only gave up 5 HRs and 34 BBs in 18 starts. His Game Start Avg. in July= 62.0 Aug= 62.4.

    After moving up to Memphis he made 7 starts and yielded only 2 HRs. In his two post season starts so far for MEM his GSavg= 58.5. His 2016 & 2017 WHIP were exactly the same at 1.28, this after moving up three levels.

    I like to see prospects progress through the system quickly and maintain effectiveness. If Flaherty is #2, Hudson is right on his heels and will be playing in Busch in ’18…. his third pro season. He should be considered our #6 starter until AW returns. His projection is the same as Flaherty’s.

    #32957

    mudville
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    If Kelly can’t make our top three, I don’t understand why people are worried that he’s blocked by Molina. I think he is the best catching prospect in baseball, BA ranking notwithstanding. If he was playing somewhere instead of sitting on the bench, he would be ranked 1 or 2 here.

    Kelly #3

    #32959

    PadsFS
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    Hudson doesn’t strike enough people out for me. 4.42 K/9 in AAA?

    #32960

    Brianpnoonan
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    Kelly again

    Flaherty has an argument… No way kelly should be outside top 3.

    #32962

    PadsFS
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    CC – When did Bader pass Kelly in your mind?

    #32963

    SoonerinNC
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    Kelly #3

    #32966

    14NyquisT
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    mud…. that’s exactly why I can’t put Kelly in the top three. He isn’t and won’t be playing enough to make much of a contribution. He would probably be starting for some MLB teams in ’18…. but not in St. Louis. I think that the F.O. made a decision to spend money on Molina and have him play the next three seasons. That’s enough time for Kelly to lead in league in splinters. Another FO screw up.

    ps. don’t get me wrong, I’ve always been a Kelly fan (I watched a short clip of him driving to his first spring training) but how much more can he learn from Matheny? He may be the real deal but how will anyone know? He could be ripping it up but only Molina will decide when CK gets any playing time. Something just ain’t right here. Sorry Carson…. no soup for you.

    #32968
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    #3 is Kelly

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